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To, but directly with the door in the house to fall: How are you going to this to the shareholders to sell, the $ 5.75 per share like had gecasht?
MB: “We, the shareholders have today written a letter, inter alia, the effects of which we of the supervisors expect in the event of a merger. The shareholders also indicate that they want us to speak. We are going to them to look up and explain what the future holds, because that question will of course come.”
How do you see the future in a standalone scenario?
HV: “A great company, in the middle of the transformation of a postal service to a parcel and logistics company. And that we expect the coming years to continue, by keeping abreast of innovation, good services to offer, focusing on the Benelux and other international pakketmarkten. There, we expect that the coming years of growth."
What can you shareholders offer to return?
HV: “Last summer we said that we are committed to the re-payment of dividend, and now we have added that we are in February with a capital markets day, again with a plan that we will present on a number of other value-creating actions for shareholders."
that further cost savings?
HV: "We make a plan with employee participation and trade unions. It will go about that transformation, but because we are that, first, internal discussion, you will hear there now anything about.”
you Can redundancies be excluded?
HR: "I understand that you want to hear, but as indicated, we plan to first intern. We think we can add value.”
Commits yourself to that standalone scenario?
HV: “I believe in our success, and we have also on our fiduciary obligations to shareholders are met. There is underlying a stand-alone strategy for a healthy company.”
But are you that strategy is also self-perform?
HV: “I have in the past four years that I was very much committed am at PostNL, I wouldn’t know why that’s changing.”
In may seemed to you still willing to steps
HV: "so Far we were never come in the negotiations with Bpost. We talked when merely on a higher level.”
Are you happy that politics is a baton has been put for this deal?
HV: “We see no support for multiple stakeholders. Major customers, trade unions. And a successful company without which clients can’t.”
Where have you derived that you have the UPD (Universal postal Service the exclusive right to provide private post in our country, red.) loss.
MB: “The possible influence of the second chamber. I have Monday to the General Consultation looked, partly on this basis do you make a weighted decision-making process.”
HR "YOU refers to what customers have said, that they the current situation is a good from the point of view of competition. And if we UPD would lose (because tender would be introduced, or tariefsberperkingen, ed.) then you have the more than €800 million of our revenue.”
When in doubt, but not to cross?
MB: “Did you go to the parliamentary debate listening?" HV: “There are a number of elements, not only the return or the loss of the USO. Also the more complex governance model, the transformation in us is much faster than at Bpost, support of stakeholders.”
But that UPD was previously not as clear as the breaking point.
MB: “oh, Yes, that uncertainty played earlier this year.”
Our view is that there are already almost two years calls will be made and that PostNL initially positive about a deal.
HV: “for Two years I recognize. When we were in that weekend in may no said, was that on eight aspects. Also support of stakeholders, and the regelgevingsdossiers where decisions made are going to be. The risks associated with statements wanted Bpost’t take it. By the leaks we have said: 'We do not see the possibility for a deal. The concerns about regulation, stakeholders, et cetera when all of them shared. The situation is not very changed since then.”
The Belgians thought that they together with you on a project working.
MB: "We were surprised that they came back.”
You are a skilled dealmaker, mr Boersma. What have the Belgians done wrong?
MB: "Publicity doesn’t help. There’s a spotlight on you. You should be great careful. If you are going to talk, you need to deal to do, you can’t go back. Behind closed doors you can talk. But otherwise you get into a trap, especially if you already think that that deal is not going to work. That dealonzekerheid you should not be in the gun, because then the share price up, shareholders expectations, and if you still need to retire, you have the company harm.”
The second leak was the disastrous?
MB: “If I am to Minister Kamp (Economic Affairs, eds.) listen, there is something gone wrong in the communication. Also, as Koen Van Gerven says something about the prime minister, and the minister, you have a problem created. Camp called it remarkable how this whole process is expired, I think that is still an understatement.”
The Belgian minister De Croo (Bpost is for 51% owned by the Belgian State) said: ‘Everything goes through my desk.”
MB: "If you do that, from a governance perspective, I think, what is going on here say. That you can’t accept it.”
With which a party may PostNL are compatible in the long-awaited consolidatiespel?
MB: “we will not speculate. If another opportunity arises, we are not opposed in principle to work together.”
You have the Belgians do not need?
MB: “I think it’s more the other way around.”
The Belgians do you need?
MB: "YOU say it.”
Are you afraid of legal actions?
MB: "We go first to our shareholders, talk and try to convince them.”
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